Turanism... is it another theory?

Or do we truly have good reasons to stand by it? I know I do, yet I wonder if my views are alienated from the rest of Turanists. Read on if you wish to decipher for yourself.

Personally I feel the whole world is completely F'ed up. To many, I am insane, and/or with strong opinions - which tend to get me banned from forums, and keep me bound to ex-military personel for mateship here in AUS, isolated from the majority who tend to P me off. I don't need another assault charge under my record as a sole provider.

To me, Turanism represents an ideology. Though to others, national pride or racial pride. My people have been genocided twice, yet my father, who is half Kalmyk and half Tatar-descendant, though mostly Slavic on my grandmother's side -> has raised me in old steppe traditions of morality. Not to mention my first girlfriend who was Magyar - though sadly, her parents were not Magyars spiritually, her father abandoning her while she was still in her mother's womb, and her mother abandoning her for heroin. Her foster father is ironically an Anglo, a biker even.

People in the end, are individuals, with our own beliefs, views, and ideologies. Turanist or not... I ask if we are fools to think all who carry our genes would be as we are. I know I am, to even believe other Turanists are like me. I am not Chingghisid, I am no leader, but a critic yet a supporter. Especially when the last time we non-Chingghisid Dzungars tried to unite our people in the 17th century, we got genocided, so no show there.

My wife and I were in a relationship kept secret amidst "civilised" Anglos. Our child has been dehumanised before she was even born. This is something any father or parent would fight against. My daughter is now six months old and healthy. So much for some folks believing that we would breed an 'abomination'. Racialism is something we should not adopt in my own personal opinion. I stand for Turanism for I know we have no hope if we are not united, yet at the same time, I wonder sometimes, what does it stand for?

There are many turanists who know the old ways of the steppes, but others who have their own views. We are a very individualistic people, united only by strong leaders. We are wolves. The "civilised" folk... pffft they call us f--king barbarians.

Yet... everyone we ruled over, whether we were Hunnu, Kokturk, Ottoman, Mongol, even the Hamnigan (Manju)... we respected their autonomy, we respected and even adopted their cultures, their religion, and their languages. Many Turanists consider this a problem - as we have many examples, one of many are the Manju. The wolf, is swallowed by the dragon.

Consider this, when you think of the "civilised". Those, who compared to us, those who have genocided, enslaved or assimilated men women and child of entire nations, replaced their cultures with a colonial culture, where their survivors are even downtrodden EVEN TO THIS DAY. Replaced their religion with Churchie BS, and replaced their tongue with I.E. languages. THIS IS THE WAY OF THE CIVILISED, personally, I spit on that word, and would rather be a "barbarian."

All this, all because the Mongol Uls dawned the modern world from the silk road from East to West if you studied history. Irony isn't it? Someone once made a smart-ass comment, Chingghis Khaan must have been a white supremist! But ironically, he has some truth in his statement though not literally.

To this day, putting aside history, we stand as few against many. We are divided - as is our nature. We are a people fiery in heart, we are a meritocracy, we will follow only who we believe deserve to lead. We are wolves, "barbarians" whatever. My ideology, in the philosophy section of this forum named "old post" - is there for any folk to read.

Am I paranoid to think this way? I really want to know if my views are really that screwed up and I really am "psychopathic"... a rather nice 'modern label' for me.

Allow me for a short reply that will do your important question no justice.

For one, we certainly do not stand as few against many. If all Turanians in the world unite we'd be a superpower. The Turanian ideology might seem small today, but this forum is growing everyday. We are perhaps pioneers who most likely will not see the result of the battle, but we're the ones that will put the first cracks in the walls that are keeping us from uniting.

I don't think you're paranoid, why would you be paranoid? Either I misunderstood your question or it's a stupid question! We might no longer live on the steps and hunt for food, those days are over. We have modernized in technique and technique ONLY. The same rules apply as they always did. Which is survival of the fittest, be strong and proud and always put your tribe first.

Today we realize that fighting amongst ourselves will only weaken us while outside forces take advantage of that. So there is no room for the old tribe mentality, we must unite under one great tribe like Ghenghis Khan did. His empire is the only proof we need to believe that we can once again be the mightiest the world has ever seen!

Yes we are devided, and no one is telling us that we should all become the same. Uniting can be done in numerous ways, we can unite while keeping our own language/culture etc. Infact, we MUST all keep our own cultures. We are too proud a people to give up our identity. Even Ghenghis Khan realized this when he united the tribes, there was a tribe democracy.

I don't know if I quite answered your question but I did the best I could!

You answered well, and your views are akin to mine.

Reality is though, we ARE still few against many. I've met many Turks, also Hungarians - yet for some reason I've noticed Hungarians are more Turanist then even Turks - what's with that? The Turks I met just go "We are not like you, we arent 'barbarian savages", and even propagate that they are "white aryans" heh.

As for modernisation, from what I've seen our people globally have adopted too much of the West. There are many aspects of the West we would be fools to adopt yet we did; For example, I have married a woman who has zero Turanian blood, and I have a daughter with her soon to be 1 yrs old in July. I've mentioned what I went through on my first post, not to mention the $20,000 court fines I had to pay after disabling an Anglo who made racial comments against my family. But the fact is:

Anglos were not the only racists...

I have seen many repeats of typical Western behaviour amongst my people, and in fact, amongst the entire world - including you Turkish. I don't really know what to believe nowadays, or what to stand up for. I just know I'll raise my daughter to say "F--k YOU ALL" when she grows up. Our people are dying, my people especially, 2 genocides yet now we have this subtle genocide to content with.

We're still in the sh-ts people.

Where have you been bro? You have been missing for a very long time.

Fr the stuff above, nearly all of the common Turks, white means little to nothing and Aryan is just an unknown word. Bu we have "Ayran" which is a drink we make by mixing yogurt with water and salt. You probably met a few internet gunners. They can be even Kürt or Armenian provacators.

Yet as I said it to you before, Turks realtes themselfs with just Turks so they don't consider much relationship with Mongols. Also there is good amount of defemation about Mongols in Islamic literature because of Baghdat massacare and death of caliph.

Bro, our over liberal and humanist traditions just lead to our own destruction, genocides of our own people and today constantly been remebered as barbarian animals by "civilized" people.

Heh well there's work, family, more work, and not very healthy nowadays either but still have to work - have taken over the business and unfortunately I will not be able to take any real breaks until it's all smooth running, even if I'm sick for a month. It's made me quite grumpy.

As for what you said Anda, heh. It's what I expected. I have no idea how Turanism will become a reality with such mentalities however. But a friend once talked about dividing up Turanism into 3 main groups, far West, central Asia, and far East groups in the meantime.

Yes, it's like having an enemy waving nuclear missiles at you, and you have a choice, to adopt such horrid weapons or to be bullied around and/or nuked. I understand where you are coming from. But I guess that's also why I've taken a passive stance nowadays in all this - I wonder if I really should be welcomed here anymore.

My wife and daughter are priority now. I do not wish to push a Turanian viewpoint on my daughter - I'd rather she make up her own mind, and as she is mixed, it's the best way to raise a child. To teach however, one must believe in one's own lectures. Hence, I guess it's hard to continue supporting Turanism nowadays.

Also, you see, I'm a traditionalist, and I would rather die with my traditions at heart then to adopt the ways of our enemies. But I know full well that your views are actually more productive. If all follow my way, I agree - we're all dead. And yes, I'm idealistic, and that is bad, hence I don't make a good Turanist anyways. We'll keep in touch Anda, I can't support this, but I can't oppose you either.

Subuatai bro, the Turanism will be reality...spontaneously. If the idea is growing in the heart and brain of many many people...it will materializeing. What must we do? Praying
and dreaming. And the god will help and create the turanian alliance. Keep your heart open bro, and the One will fill it.

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